Hi,

As an artist who work ins in multi-media, I know one trick to resolve
this, but it was shared in confidence (I think) by another carver
whose detailed carvings are legendary. He's using something truly
unorthodox, and I'd need his permission to share one of his "trade
secrets."

Mostly, you're looking for smaller cutting tools--art supply stores
carry them, sometimes--and also think in terms of anything else that
is very, very sharp and small. Art-type woodworking tools may work.
Anything pointy with a channel for the discarded rubber will work.I
haven't explored the kitchen supply stores to see if they stock
anything, or scientific supply sources. You may need to explore well
outside traditional art supplies.

But, some rubber carvers swear by one of the penknife-style X-Acto
cutting blades. People who become adept with them often say that
they'd never use standard block cutting tools. (The latter are
usually my first choice.) I've watched rubber artists work with an
X-Acto and been absolutely amazed at what they can accomplish... with
a LOT of practice.

Cheerfully,
Aisling

On 5/20/05, ledwards833 wrote:
> As I continue to carve stamps, I find I'm having difficulty with tiny,
> more intricate details. I have the speedball cutter set and several

Hi,

I should never write emails before breakfast... that was supposed to
read, "As an artist who works in multi-media..."

*blush*

On 5/21/05, Eibhlin/Aisling wrote:
> Hi,
>
> As an artist who work ins in multi-media,

I use an Xacto knife for carving as I find it much easier to get tiny
detail -- you can get them in different sizes, including very small
blades. But if that is not comfortable for you, I have heard of some
folks who have used a pliers to pinch the sides of the #1
Speedball "V" tool closer together to get a thinner carving line. You
might pick up an extra blade and try this.

I also have a few "handmade" cutting tools given to me by a legendary
carver whom I greatly admire and a few I have rigged up myself. These
use very tiny cutting ends, but definitely take practice to control.

SpringChick


--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "ledwards833"
wrote:
> As I continue to carve stamps, I find I'm having difficulty with
tiny,
> more intricate details. I have the speedball cutter set and several
> exacto knives which work great overall. But how can I do say, a
tiny
> eye, or a very, very small curved line? Any suggestions?

Along with sharp cutting tools and good carving medium try using a
magnifying glass, to make the image appear to be larger. Also large
gauge #18-24 farm type syringes have been used to remove small areas.
I don't use either so can't tell you more but I'm sure plenty folks
can.

Boxdn

--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "SpringChick"
wrote:
I have heard of some
> folks who have used a pliers to pinch the sides of the #1
> Speedball "V" tool closer together to get a thinner carving line.
You
> might pick up an extra blade and try this.
>
This works best if you heat the #1 blade, and pinch it with a knife
blade in the groove. The knife blade will keep the #1 from collaspsing
completely(this will seem like you need a third hand). Instead of
picking up one #1 Speedball blade you should figure on several as I
found that there is a learning curve and had screwed up several blades
before I was successful. Once you get the blade as small as you like
you won't want to put it down.

Don

If anyone from Speedball is on this list (or an inventor wannabe)... I smell a patentable, sellable idea here!! Blades in #0.5 and #0.25 sizes, packaged and ready to buy! I have no patience for the learning curve, so I'll just wait until someone packages and sells these better blades. Please hurry! ;-) --Papeseed

>
> From: "gwendontoo"
> Date: 2005/05/21 Sat AM 10:15:19 CDT
> To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [LbNA] Re: stamp carving
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "SpringChick"
> wrote:
> I have heard of some
> > folks who have used a pliers to pinch the sides of the #1
> > Speedball "V" tool closer together to get a thinner carving line.
> You
> > might pick up an extra blade and try this.
> >
> This works best if you heat the #1 blade, and pinch it with a knife
> blade in the groove. The knife blade will keep the #1 from collaspsing
> completely(this will seem like you need a third hand). Instead of
> picking up one #1 Speedball blade you should figure on several as I
> found that there is a learning curve and had screwed up several blades
> before I was successful. Once you get the blade as small as you like
> you won't want to put it down.
>
> Don
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

You should try an exacto or needle tool.

--- papeseed@tds.net wrote:
> If anyone from Speedball is on this list (or an
> inventor wannabe)... I smell a patentable, sellable
> idea here!! Blades in #0.5 and #0.25 sizes,
> packaged and ready to buy! I have no patience for
> the learning curve, so I'll just wait until someone
> packages and sells these better blades. Please
> hurry! ;-) --Papeseed
>
> >
> > From: "gwendontoo"
> > Date: 2005/05/21 Sat AM 10:15:19 CDT
> > To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [LbNA] Re: stamp carving
> >
> > --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com,
> "SpringChick"
> > wrote:
> > I have heard of some
> > > folks who have used a pliers to pinch the sides
> of the #1
> > > Speedball "V" tool closer together to get a
> thinner carving line.
> > You
> > > might pick up an extra blade and try this.
> > >
> > This works best if you heat the #1 blade, and
> pinch it with a knife
> > blade in the groove. The knife blade will keep the
> #1 from collaspsing
> > completely(this will seem like you need a third
> hand). Instead of
> > picking up one #1 Speedball blade you should
> figure on several as I
> > found that there is a learning curve and had
> screwed up several blades
> > before I was successful. Once you get the blade as
> small as you like
> > you won't want to put it down.
> >
> > Don
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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> From: seth mandeville
> Date: 2005/05/22 Sun AM 08:11:40 CDT
> To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [LbNA] Re: stamp carving
>
> You should try an exacto or needle tool.
>
> --- papeseed@tds.net wrote:
> > If anyone from Speedball is on this list (or an
> > inventor wannabe)... I smell a patentable, sellable
> > idea here!! Blades in #0.5 and #0.25 sizes,
> > packaged and ready to buy! I have no patience for
> > the learning curve, so I'll just wait until someone
> > packages and sells these better blades. Please
> > hurry! ;-) --Papeseed
> >
> > >
> > > From: "gwendontoo"
> > > Date: 2005/05/21 Sat AM 10:15:19 CDT
> > > To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [LbNA] Re: stamp carving
> > >
> > > --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com,
> > "SpringChick"
> > > wrote:
> > > I have heard of some
> > > > folks who have used a pliers to pinch the sides
> > of the #1
> > > > Speedball "V" tool closer together to get a
> > thinner carving line.
> > > You
> > > > might pick up an extra blade and try this.
> > > >
> > > This works best if you heat the #1 blade, and
> > pinch it with a knife
> > > blade in the groove. The knife blade will keep the
> > #1 from collaspsing
> > > completely(this will seem like you need a third
> > hand). Instead of
> > > picking up one #1 Speedball blade you should
> > figure on several as I
> > > found that there is a learning curve and had
> > screwed up several blades
> > > before I was successful. Once you get the blade as
> > small as you like
> > > you won't want to put it down.
> > >
> > > Don
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
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--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
> What's a needle tool and where can I find one?

A hypodermic needle aka syringe. Your best bet would be to visit a
veterinary supply store. I suppose you could cruise some of the
seedier parts of your city and hit some flop stops, but that might be
a little dicey.

Actually the vet. supply store would have various sizes for you to
choose from.

Don

Or a body piercing place.

--- gwendontoo wrote:
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com,
> wrote:
> > What's a needle tool and where can I find one?

>
> Actually the vet. supply store would have various
> sizes for you to
> choose from.
>
> Don
>
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Hi!, I've been letterboxing for about a month, and I am so excited
about planting a new box, but I am having a hard time finding the stuff
to carve them out of. Where do most people buy their supplies? Also, I
am into the hunting/hiking/fun part of letterboxing, more than I think
I'll be on the artistic side. I don't expect any stamps I carve to be
as beautiful as some of the ones that i've found so far. Is it
really "looked down upon" :) to hide a box with a store bought stamp? I
know there aren't that many with them in it, but I'm thinking my carved
stamps will be like a circle or square! :)

Some people don't care, most people (90%?) prefer hand-carved & would be a little disappointed to find store bought, and some people would be REALLY disappointed--to the extent that if you go store bought, it might be a good idea to indicate that in the clues. Nothing wrong w/circles & squares, btw. =) And carving improves with practice.

I started w/erasers--they're cheap & easy to find. I used to buy "the pink stuff" (Speedy Stamp) @ Michaels but they've stopped stocking it in my area so I might have to go on line....

Sheba

patchfreak wrote:
I don't expect any stamps I carve to be
as beautiful as some of the ones that i've found so far. Is it really "looked down upon" :) to hide a box with a store bought stamp? I know there aren't that many with them in it, but I'm thinking my carved stamps will be like a circle or square! :)



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Make sure to check out this page:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/newboxers/?yguid=188441117

and also

http://www.letterboxing.org/GlossaryList.php?PHPSESSID=f17a1e8b64a658eee0b7fbe1b5890bfe

Other than that I can't really answer your question. :)

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----- Original Message -----
From: patchfreak
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 1:39 PM
Subject: [LbNA] stamp carving


Hi!, I've been letterboxing for about a month, and I am so excited
about planting a new box, but I am having a hard time finding the stuff
to carve them out of. Where do most people buy their supplies? Also, I
am into the hunting/hiking/fun part of letterboxing, more than I think
I'll be on the artistic side. I don't expect any stamps I carve to be
as beautiful as some of the ones that i've found so far. Is it
really "looked down upon" :) to hide a box with a store bought stamp? I
know there aren't that many with them in it, but I'm thinking my carved
stamps will be like a circle or square! :)

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--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "patchfreak"
wrote:
>
. I don't expect any stamps I carve to be
> as beautiful as some of the ones that i've found so far.

It's not really the beauty of the stamp, IMHO, but the "match" to the
clue or the location, which is not always possible with bought stamps.
I have many images in my book which are just the name of the park
where the box was. That's OK; I can look at them and immediately
recall the finding of the box, and multi-colored ink pads really
dressed them up. Others were bought, but were a good match to the
location. I'm only disappointed when the stamp seems to have nothing
to do with anything.
Think "souvenir", not "masterpiece"
Aud

Don't worry about your carving abilities. Just try it. Here's some
links to buy the carving medium and tools.

http://www.dickblick.com/zz404/04/

http://www.misterart.com/store/view/001/group_id/1524/Speedball-Speedy-
Cut-Printing-Blocks.htm

http://www.dickblick.com/zz402/03/

There's tons of info about carving stamps...

http://www.negia.net/~unity/

I think carving the stamp is half the fun of hiding a box. But, when I
find a box with a store bought stamp, I still stamp it in my book and
am happy I found the box.
Goose Chaser

--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "patchfreak"
wrote:
>
> Hi!, I've been letterboxing for about a month, and I am so excited
> about planting a new box, but I am having a hard time finding the
stuff
> to carve them out of. Where do most people buy their supplies? Also,
I
> am into the hunting/hiking/fun part of letterboxing, more than I
think
> I'll be on the artistic side. I don't expect any stamps I carve to be
> as beautiful as some of the ones that i've found so far. Is it
> really "looked down upon" :) to hide a box with a store bought stamp?
I
> know there aren't that many with them in it, but I'm thinking my
carved
> stamps will be like a circle or square! :)
>

Hi Patchfreak!

Welcome to the wonderful world of Letterboxing! If you're looking for carving materials, you may try your local Michael's or JoAnn Fabrics. Here in CT, Michaels carries Speedy Kut and the "pink stuff". JoAnn's carries MasterCarve. You can also order PZ Kut from the link below. OR you could just grab a few white erasers at Staples, WalMart, etc. and have at it!! Please don't worry about your carving ability... even a simple stamp that someone has taken the time to carve is a wonderful thing! Some boxers don't care to find boxes that have store bought stamps in them, and others don't mind. If you plant the box then YOU decide what to put in it. Most importantly... HAVE FUN! http://www.stampeaz.com/ MayEve

patchfreak wrote:
Hi!, I've been letterboxing for about a month, and I am so excited
about planting a new box, but I am having a hard time finding the stuff
to carve them out of. Where do most people buy their supplies? Also, I
am into the hunting/hiking/fun part of letterboxing, more than I think
I'll be on the artistic side. I don't expect any stamps I carve to be
as beautiful as some of the ones that i've found so far. Is it
really "looked down upon" :) to hide a box with a store bought stamp? I
know there aren't that many with them in it, but I'm thinking my carved
stamps will be like a circle or square! :)







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Stamp carving is about as easy as carving a bar of soap. The material
lends it's self very well to carving with a grooved carving knife.

I have an older set of clip art programs with 100 k + of things to
look at. Find a theme or modify the design. Some of my yet unused
stamps are nice portraits with very little difference than the original
with only the smallest detail being harder to copy.

Or pick a theme and do a Yahoo! search for it. Like "Pumpkin clip art"
and see what turns up. Enlarge to the size you need or larger to pick
out a part of the scene. I trace or color the lines with a very soft
automatic lead pencil, turn over and rub onto eraser. I can carve
something detailed in under an hour when I have the time and I have
artist ability




--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "patchfreak"
wrote:
>
> Hi!, I've been letterboxing for about a month, and I am so excited
> about planting a new box, but I am having a hard time finding the
stuff
> to carve them out of. Where do most people buy their supplies? Also,
I
> am into the hunting/hiking/fun part of letterboxing, more than I
think
> I'll be on the artistic side. I don't expect any stamps I carve to
be
> as beautiful as some of the ones that i've found so far. Is it
> really "looked down upon" :) to hide a box with a store bought
stamp?
I
> know there aren't that many with them in it, but I'm thinking my
carved
> stamps will be like a circle or square! :)
>








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Hi,

I'm new to this hobby as well. I LOVE hiking and finding this hobby as well as the Geocaching hobby was something that combined two things that I am passionate about....exploring the outdoors and finding lost treasure...whether it's a stamp or a trinket. lol.

I'm unfortunately artisticly challenged. I gave stamp carving a shot..cut myself with an exacto knife, ended up with an eraser that looked like it was gnawed on by an animal... and have been shy of trying to carve anything (including a bar of soap) on my own again. No more sharp objects for me. I really would love to try again..but only if I could find someone to show me how. I'm not the person who can look at a diagram and call it a day. I have to have someone sit down and actually demonstrate the technique for me to catch on...(which would be safer in my case, lol). I'd like to learn though. Anyone know of any classes that are available in the Pittsburgh area?

RMORGAN762@aol.com wrote:
Stamp carving is about as easy as carving a bar of soap. The material
lends it's self very well to carving with a grooved carving knife.

I have an older set of clip art programs with 100 k + of things to
look at. Find a theme or modify the design. Some of my yet unused
stamps are nice portraits with very little difference than the original
with only the smallest detail being harder to copy.

Or pick a theme and do a Yahoo! search for it. Like "Pumpkin clip art"
and see what turns up. Enlarge to the size you need or larger to pick
out a part of the scene. I trace or color the lines with a very soft
automatic lead pencil, turn over and rub onto eraser. I can carve
something detailed in under an hour when I have the time and I have
artist ability




--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "patchfreak"
wrote:
>
> Hi!, I've been letterboxing for about a month, and I am so excited
> about planting a new box, but I am having a hard time finding the
stuff
> to carve them out of. Where do most people buy their supplies? Also,
I
> am into the hunting/hiking/fun part of letterboxing, more than I
think
> I'll be on the artistic side. I don't expect any stamps I carve to
be
> as beautiful as some of the ones that i've found so far. Is it
> really "looked down upon" :) to hide a box with a store bought
stamp?
I
> know there aren't that many with them in it, but I'm thinking my
carved
> stamps will be like a circle or square! :)
>








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Hello Wendy.

I rarely use an exacto knife other than to cut off the stamp from the
main block, I use Speedball V-knives. They work like little snow plows
on the soft material and scoot along on top of the stuff. If you can
trace a line, you can follow a design. A soft mechanical lead pencil
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From: Wendy
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 18:36:14 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: [LbNA] Re: stamp carving

Hi,

I'm new to this hobby as well. I LOVE hiking and finding this hobby
as well
as the Geocaching hobby was something that combined two things that I
am
passionate about....exploring the outdoors and finding lost
treasure...whether
it's a stamp or a trinket. lol.

I'm unfortunately artisticly challenged. I gave stamp carving a
shot..cut
myself with an exacto knife, ended up with an eraser that looked like
it was
gnawed on by an animal... and have been shy of trying to carve anything
(including a bar of soap) on my own again. No more sharp objects for
me. I
really would love to try again..but only if I could find someone to
show me how.
I'm not the person who can look at a diagram and call it a day. I have
to have
someone sit down and actually demonstrate the technique for me to catch
on...(which would be safer in my case, lol). I'd like to learn though.
Anyone
know of any classes that are available in the Pittsburgh area?











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Keep your eye on the gatherings page at AtlasQuest for one in your area. Many of the letterbox gatherings run carving workshops. Even if there is not a workshop at a gathering in your area, you can likely find somebody there who will take the time to talk with you or show you how they carve.

There are carving tutorials found here:

http://www.atlasquest.com/tutorials/carving/
http://www.letterbox-mi.com/files/carving.pdf


The Newboxers list is also a great place to discuss carving with others who are learning and to learn some of the ins and outs of carving:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/newboxers/

SpringChick

----- Original Message -----
From: Wendy
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 10:36 PM
Subject: Re: [LbNA] Re: stamp carving


Hi,

I'm new to this hobby as well. I LOVE hiking and finding this hobby as well as the Geocaching hobby was something that combined two things that I am passionate about....exploring the outdoors and finding lost treasure...whether it's a stamp or a trinket. lol.

I'm unfortunately artisticly challenged. I gave stamp carving a shot..cut myself with an exacto knife, ended up with an eraser that looked like it was gnawed on by an animal... and have been shy of trying to carve anything (including a bar of soap) on my own again. No more sharp objects for me. I really would love to try again..but only if I could find someone to show me how. I'm not the person who can look at a diagram and call it a day. I have to have someone sit down and actually demonstrate the technique for me to catch on...(which would be safer in my case, lol). I'd like to learn though. Anyone know of any classes that are available in the Pittsburgh area?

RMORGAN762@aol.com wrote:
Stamp carving is about as easy as carving a bar of soap. The material
lends it's self very well to carving with a grooved carving knife.

I have an older set of clip art programs with 100 k + of things to
look at. Find a theme or modify the design. Some of my yet unused
stamps are nice portraits with very little difference than the original
with only the smallest detail being harder to copy.

Or pick a theme and do a Yahoo! search for it. Like "Pumpkin clip art"
and see what turns up. Enlarge to the size you need or larger to pick
out a part of the scene. I trace or color the lines with a very soft
automatic lead pencil, turn over and rub onto eraser. I can carve
something detailed in under an hour when I have the time and I have
artist ability




--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "patchfreak"
wrote:
>
> Hi!, I've been letterboxing for about a month, and I am so excited
> about planting a new box, but I am having a hard time finding the
stuff
> to carve them out of. Where do most people buy their supplies? Also,
I
> am into the hunting/hiking/fun part of letterboxing, more than I
think
> I'll be on the artistic side. I don't expect any stamps I carve to
be
> as beautiful as some of the ones that i've found so far. Is it
> really "looked down upon" :) to hide a box with a store bought
stamp?
I
> know there aren't that many with them in it, but I'm thinking my
carved
> stamps will be like a circle or square! :)
>








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Hey

I was just wondering if anyone is good at carving a Blue Heron stamp.
If there is anyone who could help me.

thanks
automan01440

Wow! I just finished carving one of those and am placing it near AKron this week! I hope that's not where you wanted ;yours
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Derick Bastarache wrote: Hey

I was just wondering if anyone is good at carving a Blue Heron stamp.
If there is anyone who could help me.

thanks
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I have little experience carving and I am not good at it yet (at all).

However, I wanted a blue heron for a box, also.

I went online and found some photos of blue herons. I chose a nice
one of a side view and traced the outline. I ended up with a
silhouette stamp of the bird -- much easier for this uncoordinated
carver.

Maybe you want more details than a silhouette but that's what I did.
Just a thought.

Cheers!

KuKu
Portland, OR

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wrote:
>
> Hey
>
> I was just wondering if anyone is good at carving a Blue Heron
stamp.
> If there is anyone who could help me.
>
> thanks
> automan01440
>

Same thing I did for my "Red Heron" box, only my photo came out of my 1976 World Book Encyclopedia (it's amazing how many things it's useful for!)

Sheba

Susan Johnson wrote: I have little experience carving and I am not good at it yet (at all).

However, I wanted a blue heron for a box, also.

I went online and found some photos of blue herons. I chose a nice
one of a side view and traced the outline. I ended up with a
silhouette stamp of the bird -- much easier for this uncoordinated
carver.




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